Satsang with Oliver - questions and answers 16-20
You say that everything is one. The ONE. So a tree is nothing but the ONE appearing as a tree isn't it? But how is it possible for the attribute-less and boundless ONE to appear as a tree (= maya) in the consciousness?
The tree being the ONE that appears as a tree is of course only a concept for the human mind which wants to imagine something. It's a kind of mental practice. Like maya (the illusory world) or leela (the divine game) are only concepts as well. Actually there isn't any tree. Nothing ever happens. The human mind is not capable of imaging oneness because mind itself IS oneness. At the end every concept has to be abandoned because it never leads to the truth. Liberation means liberation from concepts, even if they are exciting and challenging for a while. The purpose of every practice (for example meditation) is to demoralise the apparent person who wants to be liberated so that he/she stops practicing. Nobody can make this happen, even I can't. But it is also completely unnecessary, because the apparent person who should stop practicing is the ONE too! So nothing has to happen at all. Therefore I constantly repeat: Relax and don't do anything special respectively do what you are just doing NOW. Everything now and in every moment is the ONE you are looking for.
When you look at the mirror what do you see?
There is the same well-known face like every morning. But it doesn't belong to anybody anymore. There is no more difference between the face in the mirror and the mirror itself. In the manifestation, the apparent world that emerges from you (Being), things can change or not. It doesn't matter what apparently changes. Like the ocean doesn't care about the forms of its waves. Water is still water and oneness is still oneness.
How do you deal with sadness, anger or problems?
Since emotions like anger or sadness aren't personified anymore because of the nonexistent identification, they just appear as a part of the conditioning of the "psycho-biologic-machine" named human being. Anger remains anger and acts occur to reduce or transform anger. Sadness remains sadness, pain remains pain. But because pain is impersonal no such a thing like suffering is developed or (in case of sadness) no self-pity. There is just sadness. There is just pain. The ocean with huge waves is still the ocean. Perhaps the conditioning is changing by and by when the element "time" permanently stays away. In general, everything can occur.
Another note: There are of course effective methods of "brainwashing" to change the conditioning of a human being and to solve apparent problems in this way. These methods are very effective and facilitate the communication and the living together of people in this (apparent) world of manifestation. I am thinking for example of the method of non-violent communication by Marshall Rosenberg (which I can warmly recommend to everybody who likes it) or of a course in miracles. Other methods like for example practices of meditation are used to control body and mind. Of course they have no influence on the Being because they ARE the Being. They are in a way another characteristic in the game of life.
Who actually is identifying with a person? Consciousness or mind?
What's the difference? You can, if you like to, use my favourite picture of the ocean and imagine the mind being an accumulation of billions of thoughts arising out of the ocean of Being like waves. Instead of "arise" you can also use "happen". Thoughts are happening, mind is happening. One of these thoughts is, according to this concept, the (apparent) thought of separation creating an identified person, even if of course there is no thought and therefore no mind separated from the Being. So there is, in a way, "no one" identifying with a person. You may say identification is appearing. And disappearing. Or not. Who cares?
Let me say this again: these are only concepts for the asking mind whose nature is to ask questions. In truth nothing is arising and nothing is happening. Linear imaginations of time and space completely disappears in the Being.
Oliver, do you experience your true identity also in deep sleep, as your consciousness is then no longer relating to objects?
There is nobody to experience his true identity, neither in deep sleep nor in the awake state. There is no "experiencer" of true identity, because every experiencer IS that identity (subject=object). Just as the personal identity normally disappears in deep sleep (in deep sleep you don't exist), it is now absent also in the awake state. So, while during the night "nobody" (no person) is sleeping, in the morning "no-one" wakes up. This is called "awakening". "Liberation" finally means that nobody cares any longer if the so-called "awakening" has happened or not.
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